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The
director's bug bit Mehreen Jabbar way back in her school days. She
would round up her friends and put together eighties-inspired music
videos and short skits filmed with a wobbly hand-held camera. Coming
from a home in which film-making was appreciated and encouraged
(her father Javed Jabbar is one of the pioneers of advertising in
Pakistan and the director of Beyond the Last Mountain, Pakistan's
only English language film which, unfortunately, sank without a
trace), she dabbled in advertising, but knew where her heart lay.
She would scout out, and watch, obscure foreign films, lap up Bergman
and other classics and even delved into old Indian films. Inspired
by film-makers like Bergman, Vittorio de Sica and Mira Nair, she
left for the US to complete a diploma in film-making and then returned
to Pakistan to join television. After a long stint doing teleplays,
Mehreen returned to her first love in 2007, when she started filming
for Ramchand Pakistani. Today, she is doing her country proud by
taking the film to the Tribecca Film Festival in New York, where
it will premiere. Of the 2,500 entries, Mehreen's Ramchand Pakistani
is one of the 12 films short-listed for the competition category.
In fact, this is the first ever Pakistani film to be nominated for
a prestigious international film festival.
In
between preparing for Tribecca as well as the film's local release
and working on a new serial for TV, Mehreen spoke to Newsline about
her experiences while filming Ramchand Pakistani, the state of film-making
in Pakistan and her future ambitions
Q:
How did you come across the story of Ramchand Pakistani, which is
based on a real-life incident?
A:
Actually, my father, who has been working in the Thar region for
a long time with his NGO Baanh Beli, came across this story and
he wrote it down and sent it to me. It was not the kind of theme
I would have normally picked up for my first film, since my sensibilities
are more urbane and women-oriented. But when I read the story about
a boy who wanders across the border by mistake and is taken prisoner,
I loved it.
I dislike categorising
films as arty or commercial, but this is not your usual Pakistani
film. Nevertheless, it is a human interest story which, I hope,
will have appeal across the board at home. It is a layered, quiet
but very compelling story of a mother and child. And although the
subject is very serious, it is not depressing. The theme is very
relevant since, even today, there are hundreds of prisoners languishing
in jails on both sides of the Pakistan-India border.
One of the biggest challenges was to find a child actor to play
the pivotal role. I interviewed scores of children in Karachi and
in other cities in Sindh without any luck. Finally, my friend Yasir
Nawaz Baloch told me about a boy in Karachi who had some acting
experience, and I sent my scriptwriter Mohammad Ahmed to go and
meet him. His name is Syed Fazil Hussain and he blew us away. I
think everyone will be amazed by him.
Q: The film seems to be something of a collaborative effort.
Your leading actress is Nandita Das from India, while some of your
crew was American.
A: We had four Americans on the crew. I have worked
a lot with one of them while shooting plays in the US, and he introduced
me to the rest. Nandita and I had spoken earlier about wanting to
work together at some point and I think she was perfectly suited
to this role, both physically and otherwise. She read the script,
liked it and actually helped with the development of her own character
a lot. Although she does a lot of alternative Indian cinema, even
by those standards this was a very low budget film for her. But
she was wonderful to work with and kept saying that being in Pakistan
didn't feel any different from being in India. Incidentally, the
film was also edited in India. I did the first edit but then it
was given to someone who is actually Shyam Benegal's editor. He
helped tremendously with the structuring and tightening of the film.
Q:
The film's music director is also Indian. Why borrow so much creative
talent from across the border?
A:
The music has been done by Debu Mishra, who did the soundtrack
for films like Raincoat and Chokher Bali, and the songs are rendered
by Shafqat Amanat Ali and Shobha Mudgal. I thought the combination
of these two powerful voices would be tremendous. Then the lyrics
are by Anwar Maqsood, so there is a collaboration.
All the Indians that
I approached were extremely cooperative. In fact, once Debu Mishra
came to Pakistan, he was so awed and stunned by this country that
he would pursue me more than I did him. You know, people say they
want to work with India but then resent it when you do. Seventy-five
per cent of my film is Pakistani, why must we focus on the 25%.
Indian films have been banned in Pakistan for the last 30 years
and our movie houses are falling down. Now, at least, because of
Indian films people are going back to the theatres and we can invest
in them. Also, a film like Khuda Ke Liye did so well while Indian
films were running [in Pakistani cinema houses]. So there's nothing
wrong with some healthy competition.
Q:
What challenges did you have to face while filming?
A:
Well, for one, it was difficult to get permission to shoot in Thar
because the area is near the Indian border and I had an Indian and
four Americans on my team. Then the logistics of filming in Thar
were huge. Imagine transporting 75 people to a location 15 hours
by road from Karachi in the most underdeveloped region of the country.
My associate producer Mariam Mukati, who is a very brave woman,
made several trips to Thar and worked out all the arrangements for
putting up so many people in the middle of nowhere. Hundreds of
tents were erected, catering organised, we even had water tanks
brought in by the local trucks, called kekras, and had toilets built.
On the part of the foreigners, it definitely needed a spirit of
adventure to travel to a desert in Pakistan and put up with the
discomforts. All of them had upset stomachs and all of us lost weight,
had hoarse throats and became very brown. But everyone says that
filming in Thar was the best part of the whole experience. Getting
up with the sun, setting out on long drives in the desert to the
locations, and then returning at twilight
Thar was magical.
Q:
So how did Tribecca happen?
A:
I sent the film through some friends to be shown to Mira Nair, who
is one of the reasons why I am a director today. She liked it enough
to let me use her name to endorse the film in the ads and also gave
us a list of festivals to which we should apply.
Festivals are important
because we don't have the budgets to market our films internationally.
The festival circuit is a world unto itself and I am just learning
about it. It is a very competitive market and every good film does
not get noticed. You have to have a very thick skin as a director.
You have to be very resilient and ready for rejection. One of the
programmers from Cannes really liked Ramchand Pakistani but Cannes
gives its reply in April. This put me in a real quandary, but since
Tribecca was already in hand, I accepted it (a film can only premiere
in one festival). Also, it will be great to premiere in New York
where I have lived and worked and have so many friends.
Q:
When do Pakistani audiences get to see the film?
A:
Geo has agreed to distribute the film for us. Once it returns from
the festival, which is in April, it will soon be screened in Pakistan.
Q:
What's on the cards after Ramchand Pakistani?
A:
If I could, I would only concentrate on making films. Maybe I would
choose a more light-hearted, more commercial venture next time.
But I am currently shooting a serial for television. It is a love
triangle starring Humayun Saeed, but the treatment is different
and I hope it will stand out.
Q:
You have worked in television since 1993. TV has become very lucrative
but there has not been a corresponding improvement in quality. And
why is every second drama shot abroad?
A:
Well, it is quite difficult to get actors to give dates at home;
it is easier to get them to go abroad. This is definitely the day
of the actor. Also, we are more restricted in Pakistan. Abroad one
can do more outdoor shoots - on the street or in a café.
But yes, drama has deteriorated because we are obsessed with Indian
TV.
Unfortunately,
we are not being inspired by the good work being done in India or
even by our own history of drama. It is crass TV now. We have wonderful
actors. If you give them the right project and exposure, they can
deliver. But quality is compromised by what the producer or the
channel wants. I also have a big beef with what channels and advertisers
are doing to drama. They do not respect what they are showing and
will cut a scene in the middle to show ads. Then they have slots
of 15 or 20 minutes of advertising during plays which infuriates
audiences. There are many ways to regulate such issues like they
do abroad. If only we could curtail our greed and become united.
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