| Q:
How was Laal formed?
A:
I teach political science at LUMS and I used to take my guitar
to my classes and play music for my students. Shahram Azhar
was one of my students at LUMS. We hit it off artistically and
intellectually. For six years we played together at various
workers meetings and corner meetings and demonstrations. Finally,
we made a video while we were in London against Musharraf’s
dictatorship (my wife Mahwash Waqar sang backing vocals). It
became very popular on the internet and as a result we got signed
up. We then hooked up with my cousin Haider Rahman, who plays
the flute, and my younger brother on the guitar (with whom I
had been playing the guitar for a number of years before).
Q: What was the concept behind your album Ummeed-e-Saher?
A: It is the poetry and music of resistance. It
is resistance to imperialism, military rule, and religious fundamentalism.
These are the evils that have destroyed democracy in Pakistan.
Q:
Do you think the youth of today can understand and relate to
Habib Jalib’s poetry?
A:
Faiz Ahmed Faiz and Habib Jalib were Marxists. They popularised
socialist ideas through poetry. Their life and struggle against
various military dictatorships and religious fundamentalism
is well recorded and an inspiration to all. Unfortunately, this
tradition was somewhat lost on our generation as a result of
the sudden turn towards crass consumerism in the 1990s. But
the success of Laal shows that the essence of their progressive
message is just as relevant today.
As activists, it
is aimed primarily at the young and working people because they
have the power and numbers to change society. But, really speaking,
our music has a universal canvas. We want to appeal to all generations,
all classes and all nations. So far, we are focusing on people
inside Pakistan. Perhaps, at a later date we can also think
of building international appeal.
Q:
What is the Communist Mazdoor Kissan Party. How do you contribute
to it?
A:
The Communist Mazdoor Kissan Party is a Marxist-Leninist party.
Its aim is to bring about a socialist society. I have been a
grassroots activist for the last 11 years, promoting the platform
of this party.
We were opponents
of military rule from October 12, 1999 (when Musharraf took
power). But our message received a mass audience with the lawyer’s
movement. We were involved with that movement from the word
go. However, at first we were involved with it as activists
who would mobilise workers and lead slogans. The slogans turned
into songs. The songs then turned into videos and the videos
into an album.
We
set up the organisation that brought everyone together to protest
the imposition of Emergency in London. In fact, we were the
first to organise protests in London. We led the slogans, the
chants. It was very important to do that at a time when there
was a media blackout in Pakistan. It encouraged people to know
that there were solidarity protests outside of Pakistan. The
largest of such solidarity movements was in London. So many
people have asked me to write an account of this struggle. I
will, at some point. But for now, I need to finish my PhD and
do something about the Taliban.
Q:
Are you planning to do fundraising concerts to help the displaced
people of Swat?
A:
Absolutely. We would like to take the band to every factory,
every field and every street corner of Pakistan to raise funds
for the IDPs. The only thing that is holding back our band at
the moment is my absence; I am in London finishing my PhD. But
we are currently working on a project related to the IDPs.
Q:
What’s next for Laal?
A:
The next step is not only to do more videos but to reach audiences
more directly with performances. Also, we have organised the
Laal Brigade, which is full of young people who want to change
Pakistan. This is gaining momentum and mobilising a core group
of committed activists. I’d say, we have been more successful
than we could have ever dreamed. Who knew that we would emerge
at the national level in such a short time?
Q: Do you feel the
Pakistani music scene today is different to that in the ’90s?
A: Yes. I think there is something about the Pakistani public.
We are really crazy about good music and poetry. The film industry
is not very strong, so, unlike India, music bands are not overshadowed
by playback singers.
And I think an element of rebellion against Zia’s fundamentalist
repression has also found expression through music.
Q: How did you manage to create a rapport with your audiences?
A: We never planned any of this. It just fell into our lap.
We were geared towards politics and music was a means to an
end.
But I think it is harder for other bands. We beat the pack because
of our politics, because we connected with what people were
thinking and the way they were feeling. Good musicians are often
left behind because they fail to think about what it is that
they are singing and hence do not make that connection with
people.
On the whole, it’s easier today than it was a decade ago.
With TV channels that have a voracious appetite for new material
and entertainment, the canvas has expanded enormously. I still
remember the times when musicians used to play at small venues
and wouldn’t even get a mention in the papers.
Q: Does the warm welcome you received from almost all quarters
make you nervous, as a lot of expectations are riding on your
shoulders?
A: No, not really. We are developing as musicians. And we have
a lot of ideas in store that we want to try out. I guess we
would be nervous if we had run out of ideas and creativity.
But we are quite keen to produce a lot more and reach out to
a broader audience.
Q: Is singing a full-time career for you now or will you revert
to teaching?
A: Teaching is my full-time career. I have taken up music in
order to use it as a teaching tool. Teaching is very important
to me and I wouldn’t want to give it up. When I finish
my PhD, I will be teaching at LUMS.
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