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Q:
Javaid Shampoo was shown recently at the Kara Film Festival in Karachi
and at Matteela and Rafi Peer World Performing Arts Festival in
Lahore. How do you think the audiences responded - did they "get"
the movie?
A: I wasn't present at the Kara Film Festival screening in Karachi.
People who were there say it was well received. It was very well
received at Matteela in Lahore where it showed twice. Very few people
were able to watch it at the Rafi Peer Festival for which there
seem to be several reasons but there is little point in going into
those. It was the first time Rafi Peer Festival screened films and
some problems were to be expected. I trust it will be a much better
affair the next time
I
don't know if the audience "got" the movie, as you put
it. I would like to think that the movie was fairly "gettable."
We were just trying to say a few things through a simple story without
"intellectualising" or "arty-fying" anything.
But then if one wants one can intellectualise and complicate the
simplest things. If the film is able to keep a diverse audience
interested for its seventy-one minutes then as far as I am concerned
that audience is "getting" it. There are very few, if
any, hidden and deeper "meanings" in Javaid Shampoo that
we deliberately put there. Nevertheless, the arty types are welcome
to their own fun and to explore depths that were not in the minds
of the film-makers when they were making the film.
Q:
How do you and Faisal Rehman split the writing/directing chores?
Who does what? What is the creative process from idea to execution.
I'm talking with particular regard to how the two of you work together.
A: Faisal and I have done three projects together.
Two features, i.e World Ka Centre and Javaid Shampoo and an adaptation
for Indus TV of Manto's Kaali Shalwar. We don't work together any
longer and our partnership, "Turun Talky" is now dissolved.
But while we did work together, a project got executed by itself
with each of us doing what he did better. I can't think of a formula
but I can tell you with specific reference to Javaid Shampoo.
While
looking for a certain outdoor location for Kaali Shalwar we met
this boy who does what JS does i.e. make counterfeit shampoos. We
thought there might be a full film there. At the same time we were
thinking of making something around a party/get-together. We decided
that neither concept was a full film but that both could be fused
in a simple plot and enable us to say quite a few things. We met
every second or third day in the evening after work to chalk out
the plot. That done I started writing the scenes. Faisal would read
them as I wrote and offer comments, if any. When we had the script
we marked our locations and did shot divisioning. At shootings,
I worked with the actors on their acting (though most actors were
good enough as they were and fully understood what was required
of them) and Faisal was behind the camera. He changed some of the
original shot divisioning but I didn't have any problem with that
since it was for the better. Things did happen quite smoothly actually.
The writing etc took about a month-and-a half and the shooting and
editing another month. Since both of us have other full time professions,
we did things slowly and at our leisure.
Q: Javaid Shampoo hinges on a crucial long scene at a
get-together of friends. The acting by your cast in that scene was
quite natural and the dialogues actually brilliant. How was that
scene shot? Did it require a lot of rehearsal and/or was there a
lot of improvisation? Did the actors stick to the script or did
they ad lib?
A: We have always tried to work with non-actors as
much as possible. Other than Saniya Ansari, everyone in that scene
is a non-actor. It was a two-camera scene with pre-decided shot
divisioning but some of it was changed by Faisal on the spot. Except
rarely, these were long single takes. Non- actors never memorise
their lines and that's a pain. In Javaid Shampoo, as opposed to
World Ka Centre, I was reluctant to allow much ad lib as the dialogues
were tight and precise. However, if an actor had problems with a
certain word or phrase, it would be OK to change it. We had to rehearse
before scenes quite often, not so much to elicit the "right"
acting as to ensure that the dialogues were remembered.
Q: Javaid Shampoo has been invited to the next Munich
Film Festival. How does that feel? Any expectations?
A:It is a happy thing of course. I am clueless as
to what to expect. For one, it will be very good exposure.
Q: What's the next project?
A: One film a year or even every two years would be
pretty good. I am writing a script presently for a feature film
which I hope to begin shooting around October/November. It is to
be produced by Mridu Chandra, a film maker from New York who is
in Pakistan for a while to teach film-making at Beaconhouse National
University. We are hoping it will turn out well.
Q:
If one wants to buy/rent a copy of Javaid Shampoo how does one do
that?
A: One can't buy or rent JS. The reason is that we
sold it to GEO six months ago. They are neither airing it nor releasing
it in any other way. Now they say they will air it after Moharram.
But I don't really know. They aired World Ka Centre pretty quickly....I
can only wonder about JS. Perhaps when they have aired it they may
be amenable to making DVDs of it for sale. I really don't know.
If I knew they would just sit on it for ages, I would probably not
have sold it.
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