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Q:
Have the fortunes of women across all sections of society improved
in any significant way over the past few years?
A: The statistics don't tell a positive story, unfortunately.
The first step to a woman's empowerment is her degree of education,
and girl children all over the country, especially Sindh, have high
dropout rates from school and dwindling enrolment. On the other
hand, more women come out to work than ever before, but that too
is not always a clear index of how much control a woman exercises
over life, her choices and the income she brings in. Social change
is affecting women's lives in many ways, but the outcome is not
nearly as empowering as we tend to expect. Publicly and politically,
women occupy more space than they ever did before in Pakistan, but
at the same time there are higher numbers of women that are victimised
on account of their gender, so it's a mixed and not entirely pretty
picture.
Q:
Has the introduction of women parliamentarians made any significant
difference in highlighting women's issues? How do you feel about
women opposing your bill on the Protection and Empowerment of Women
Act 2003?
A: The increase in the number of women parliamentarians
has significantly changed the nature of the agenda in the political
mainstream, although there is a long way to go before women measure
their success as politicians by what they have been able to achieve
for other women. While it is true that many women colluded in opposing
my Empowerment of Women Bill or even our Honour Killings Bill, they
did so as members of political parties, bound by the regressive
political culture of their organisations. Some did it out of misplaced
ideological commitments, like the MMA women for instance, who seem
to have little voice in their own parties' decision-making bodies
but are used as shock troops by their own male party leaders to
attack progressive women and all the baggage of reform we try to
bring with us into parliament. But what is most heart-breaking is
to see educated women on the treasury benches twisting and turning
with the political wind, using women's rights language to get ahead
in the world, but abandoning their cause in the pursuit of ministries
and even a lot less. It is for this reason that we were never able
to form a caucus that actually addressed issues head-on. No one,
except men and women from the PPP, were willing to do that.
Q:
Was it a difficult climb to the top - both as a woman editor of
the Herald and as a woman politician?
A: I have always had to work very hard for whatever
I have achieved, much like most women at the top who know that they
will have to put in more hours, deliver twice as good as anyone
else to even stand a chance. Opportunities do play a huge part in
everyone's life, of course, and I am privileged to have had a solid
education and scholarships abroad. I would not valorise women like
myself as having achieved a great deal by printing cover stories
that endangered many of our lives, if not our jobs as editors, because
in English journalism it is almost an advantage being a woman. You
can work longer hours on less pay than male colleagues who typically
have to support families by themselves. But, in politics, the backroom-old-boy
culture is very, very hard to overcome. It is only my party, the
PPP, where women are given senior positions in the mainstream, outside
the women's wings, without a feudal background necessarily. There
is a grudging respect for one after a while, but even in my party
a woman has to prove herself via the sheer hard work route, and
often finds herself confronted by a glass ceiling.
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