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Q: It is said in PPP circles that all power flows from
Naheed - that even party heavyweights like Makhdoom Amin Fahim and
Aitzaz Ahsan cannot take a step without first getting the nod from
you. How much substance is there in such reports?
A: It is incorrect. The Pakistan Peoples Party functions
as a democratic institution where instructions are issued and decisions
are taken by the Chairperson after developing a consensus and in
consultation with the Central Executive Committee, senior party
colleagues and the federal council. Where necessary, the party organisation
at the provincial, division, district and tehsil levels are also
consulted before a final decision is taken.
Q: Do you have faith that the forthcoming elections will
reflect the will of the people?
A: The regime has set into motion a machinery for
pre-poll rigging in which the state apparatus and resources are
being utilised. Our party candidates have been pressurised, Mohtarma
Benazir Bhutto-specific laws have been promulgated, and every attempt
is being made to keep the mainstream political parties out of the
political arena, but politics and history have their own dynamics.
Q: Since you do not have faith in the current electoral
exercise, why is the PPP (or PPPP) in the fray? Is it a fear of
being completely marginalised after October 10?
A: The Pakistan Peoples Party is a political entity
and we don't believe in running away from the political process.
No matter if the dice are loaded against us.
Q: Amin Fahim had stated that the PPPP would consider
a boycott of the elections if "pushed to the wall." What
would you define as 'pushed to the wall?'
A: For the moment, the Pakistan Peoples Party is
going into the election but being a political party, all political
options are open. Being pushed to the wall would mean that there
is no room for maneouverability.
Q: So far in the electoral campaign the PPPP's focus seems
to have been more on getting rid of Musharraf/the army, than on
real issues. Is that top of your party's agenda?
A: The economic emancipation of the middle-class,
lower middle-class and working classes of Pakistan has been and
continues to be the major agenda item of the Pakistan Peoples Party,
but dictatorship and military takeovers have interrupted this process
and during these periods of interruption the priorities set by elected
governments have also been changed. Hence both complement one another.
Q: Does your party propose to change priorities
in terms of budget allocations - i.e. allocate more funds to the
social sector as opposed to defence?
A: The Pakistan Peoples Party has always generated
the economy, found the money and increased the allocation of funds
to the social
Q: Can you cite specific cases of interference in, or
sabotage of your party's campaign by the government, or agencies
at its behest?
A: There is a long list of cases and specific instances
which have been pointed out in various communications to the Election
Commission of Pakistan by Mian Raza Rabbani, acting secretary general,
Pakistan Peoples Party. The Pakistan Peoples Party has prepared
a document of over 125 pages of various instances of pre-poll rigging
to date.
Q: How do you respond to charges levelled against you
that you have taken money to allocate tickets, and that despite
the party line, have awarded tickets to personal favourites rather
than the loyalists who were promised tickets according to party
policy?
A: I strongly dismiss these allegations with the contempt
that they deserve. The procedure adopted by the party for theawards
of tickets was transparent and involved the widest possible consultations
of all structures of the party, starting from the tehsil, district,
division, provincial and the federally formed parliamentary board.
These consultations were carried out through telephonic conferences
in the presence of the Chairperson.
Q: Even if the PML(N) and PPPP work out a power-sharing
formula in the new Parliament, how effective do you think the government
can be in the post-constitutional amendment framework?
A: It is yet to be seen whether Parliament will endorse
in toto, the LFO.
Q: If the PPPP manages to form the government, would
it follow General Musharraf's post-September 11 policy vis-a-vis
the war against terrorism?
A: The Pakistan Peoples Party since its inception
in 1967, has an anti-fundamentalist and anti-terrorism policy. During
its tenures of government, we did not allow the export of terrorism
from our soil. We will continue to be a part of the war against
terror.
Q: Benazir had once said that Kashmir should be
"left to another generation." Will that be the party line
if elected?
A: It is incorrect that Mohtarma Benazir Bhutto had
ever said that Kashmir should be left to another generation. What
she and the party maintains is that it is a dispute that has defied
solution for the past 53-54 years, and the world scenario is testament
to the fact that such disputes require time for position's to soften
and confidence to build.
Q: What is the status quo regarding the cases filed against
you for alleged irregularities?
A: For the moment there are two cases that are pending
against me. One initiated by the caretaker government of Mairaj
Khalid pertaining to the Bait-ul-Maal. In this case, which has been
pending since then before a court of law, there are no charges of
corruption, but misuse of authority.
In 1997, a reference was filed by the Nawaz Sharif government against
Mohtarma Benazir Bhutto in which I am a co-accused. This reference,
pending in an accountability court, deals with providing employment
in PIA.
Apart from this, for the last six years, I have been on the ECL,
but there is no investigation pending against me.
Q: Given the remote control nature of the PPPP's leadership
at this juncture, how viable will this situation be in the long
term if the party does manage to form the government?
A: The party is not being run by remote control.
In this modern era of communication where distances have been reduced,
the Chairperson runs the party in almost the same manner as she
would have if she was in Pakistan. She is in touch with her party
structures, her senior colleagues, all cadres of the party.
Q: To what extent is Benazir willing to delegate authority
to her lieutenants?
A: The Chairperson has delegated authority to all
party structures and office bearers in accordance with the constitution
and the rules of procedure of the Pakistan Peoples Party.
Q: It was reported in newspapers that Benazir would only
return if she was allowed to contest elections. Since this is not
likely, after the event, on what factors will her return be contingent?
A: The central executive committee of the Pakistan
Peoples Party has taken a decision that Ms. Bhutto will return to
Pakistan. The CEC is at the moment reviewing the political situation,
as also the various challenges mounted against the law that disqualifies
her, and her disqualification itself. In the light of these developments,
the party will decide the date of her return.
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